🏔️ What does the dental innovation landscape look like from 30,000 ft? How do policy and regulatory changes shape what we see? How can dental innovation produce social good? We'll answer these questions and more in the latest episode of Kinda Different. Your host, Dr. Matt Allen, chats with Dr. Jeremy Krell of Revere Partners and they discuss the importance of learning from other industries to improve dental care. Dr. Krell highlights the role of policy in shaping the future of dental innovation, particularly in data interoperability and access to care. Dr. Krell shares personal experiences that have influenced his perspective on healthcare and stresses the need for the dental industry to focus on social good and health equity through thoughtful investment strategies.
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Transcript:
What's up, everyone? Welcome back to another episode of Kinda Different, a dental podcast where we talk about innovation in dentistry. We connect with some of the best and the most amazing guests out there.
Today is no exception to that. And we talk about how we all together can make dental care more human. It is a job for all of us.
I am Dr. Matt Allen, the CEO, co-founder of DifferentKind, and your host for Kinda Different. I am thrilled to have somebody with us today who might be more well-positioned to talk about certainly innovation in the dental industry than anyone else out there. Somebody who has been doing this for a long time and is certainly putting his money where his mouth is literally every single day in terms of innovation in the dental space.
Dr. Jeremy Krell, managing partner of Revere Partners, Oral Health VC that is just really helping to shape the future of what oral health innovation looks like. So Jeremy, thank you so much for taking the time to join us today. We're thrilled to have this conversation.
Tell us a little bit more about yourself and just name and title, and then we'll get to it.
Yeah, Matt, thanks so much for having me on Kinda Different and looking forward to the conversation today. My background is a combination of business and dentistry and therefore the business of dentistry, if you will. I am a dental professional, licensed dentist, practiced a little under 10 years, don't practice anymore.
So I'm kind of retired or kind of recovering if that fits the mold. I really brand myself a startup guy, a founder, operator in my past lives. I started in tech having nothing to do with health care at all.
I had a couple of exits there, went to what I'd call luxury goods and commodity services, and was targeting college students, helped to run an exit of business for four years there, started an incubator in Boston, New York, Chicago, San Francisco, ran that for about five years until I stepped into a leadership role at Oscar Health Insurance in this category of strategic provider innovations and development overseeing their hospital system partners and technology integrations into them, an Oscar IPO, so tons of learnings there from health insurance to IPO, and then became the dentist behind QWIP, the Subscription Electric Toothbrush, Oral Health Product Company and kind of focused on building the professional channel there, became a VC-backed unicorn business, stayed there four years or so until I was fully vested, and then stepped into doing what I'll call my own thing. That started out as a family office, the Bar Chester Bay Group. I have about 40 assets under management, sort of part board member, advisor, and part investor until I kept colliding into this primary and secondary gap in dental, primary gap, a hindrance of capital flow into its dental technology companies and sector, and a secondary gap around the missing links with the corporate side of dentistry or the industry side, and the smaller side of dentistry, these smaller earlier stage technology companies, and how the two can engage in early business.
And so five years next quarter would be the inception or the birthday of Revere Partners, where today I'm the managing partner. And we focus there on exclusively investing in dental technology or dental technology related companies. So that's a little bit about me.
Awesome. Like I said, yeah, you certainly have quite a perspective here. And some things that I'm really excited to kind of pull on in terms of understanding from your perspective, like where some things going right in dentistry and where are they going wrong?
So let's start there in terms of innovation. I think one of the spots that, you know, I've always looked at as somebody's always been interested in innovation and oral health is like, well, what's medicine doing right? And sometimes they get it right.
And sometimes they get it wrong. But what do you think, like from your perspective, what's the biggest thing that we can learn from innovation, not just in like health care and dental care, but like what can we learn most from innovation in other industries right now? And how are you kind of thinking about that in terms of operationalizing that at Revere, whether that's making investments or encouraging portcodes to do certain things, like what can we learn from industries outside of health care that we can apply to the health care lens?
Yeah, 100%. And I always think it's important to have this sort of top down perspective, right? Be able to lift your head above all the dental tech applications of individual point solutions that we get, right?
And look down and say, well, what are others doing in other health care verticals or other verticals in general? What should we be doing, right? That we're not doing now.
I think it is helpful to have that perspective or layer onto the investment process. So a couple of things. One of them is this area of data interoperability.
Maybe even it's just data, right? And interoperability is a part of that. The thought process around the data that goes into the software that we use has to be clean.
The data has to be analyzed to provide real insights, right? Analyzed in a way that is actually valuable to the business that is using the data. And those outputs have to be clean.
And they're only going to be clean if the other two processes, data going in and analysis being done well, are done accordingly, right? If you look at the medical sector, do they have everything with data and interoperability figured out? No, of course, they do not have everything figured out.
But they are a little bit, I would say, ahead of the curve of where the dental sector is specifically, right? They deal with a lot more data coming from many, many more inputs and being shared across many stakeholders, many more stakeholders, right? So larger volumes of data, lots and lots of insights shared and gained across many stakeholders.
And there are some learnings that can come from using data at scale, right? This sensitive health care data, using it at scale and being able to transport it around, right? We've made an investment in a company called Braid Health.
They're working on data and transportability and interoperability in dentistry. So there's an example of how we kind of look at that problem elsewhere and think about its solution here. I specifically sit on a committee for the ADA on interoperability, which is largely looking at the Cures Act and how this inception in dentistry now has been ratified.
ODIN is going to come down the pipeline and what that is going to look like for everybody who's in the line of care, the medical professionals and dental practice businesses themselves, the software companies that are touching this type of data, right? It sort of defines an electronic dental record and the patients specifically access a right to it. So, there's another example, right?
Not just transporting the data among health care stakeholder, professional stakeholders, but, you know, looking up a little bit and seeing, well, you know what? You know, health care does have MyChart, right? And for whatever flaws MyChart has, patients do have relative access to their data in health care compared to dentistry, where, you know, many times they face there is no access or they have to have it printed out in paper or they have to pay some kind of fee or they get it in some inaccessible file format, right?
There's some, there's certainly some barriers there, right? So just as I think, you know, one example looking at health care and other related vertical and data and interoperability, how they handle that there and, you know, some of the investments and, you know, policy advocacy that we're doing, you know, over here to kind of address that.
Yeah, let's, let's, you know, I love both of those examples for sure. Let's dive a little bit deeper, I think, into some of the, your view of some of the policy, right? Because I think a lot of what you're talking about in health care, like, ends up getting codified in some way, right?
And whether that's, you know, insurance reimbursement is what codifies it, or, you know, whether it's just governmental policy is what codifies it. So what do you kind of see? Obviously, you talked about the Cures Act and you talked about Odin.
You know, what are some of the things that you see coming that you're like, hey, to me, these are the next frontiers of dental policy that are going to shape the future of innovation in, you know, specifically in dentistry?
Yeah, so I think that those are, you know, that's one set, right? But that example really is just pertaining to, you know, data and a patient record and the patient's access to that record, right, sort of one very specific subset that that policy touches. Yep.
And, you know, I'll also caution my comment with the fact that obviously a new administration, you know, coming in, you know, early next, you know, in 2025 here. And so, you know, perhaps what I'm saying may stay the same or may change, right? And so I, you know, not to necessarily anchor on any one detail rather than, you know, in general, the areas that do need to improve.
There's this other, you know, certainly this other area we have our eyes on, you know, that's around the insurers themselves, right? And this central, this fact of a dental loss ratio, you know, coming to fruition, it's already in a variety of states, and Massachusetts is one of the furthest along states, right? But, you know, the insurers facing, you know, kind of regulation around how dollars can and should be spent, you know, are they spent on the patient?
Are they, are they returned? You know, what, what are, what are they spent on, you know, rather than, you know, just building and building and building assets, you know, under management, you know, rather than using them on, on, on care delivery, right? So, so that's definitely this, this aspect of a dental loss ratio.
When I worked at Oscar Health Insurance, we, you know, when we were sort of a startup health insurance company, we kind of lived and died by this MLR, this medical loss ratio, right? In the way that I think a lot of startups think about, are they profitable or are they losing money? That, you know, our key metric, one of our major key metrics and objectives at Oscar was, are you in your role, in your department, are you affecting MLR, Medical Loss Ratio, right?
Are you doing things that build efficiency to bring down, right? That, you know, A, the insurer is making something on the dollar because I was working at an insurer, right? And B, you know, are we being efficient in spending on patient care, right?
So I think that that element of how, you know, insurers are now going to be, you know, kind of brought closer and closer to how this care is delivered, right? And, you know, I think are going to be looking for ways to engage and, you know, potentially trade value with the care providers in our space. But on a different playing field, it's very, I think, easy for the insurer to get into a unidimensional battle with the, you know, health care provider in terms of, you know, I should be paid more.
No, you should be paid less, right? And instead now with technology, dental technology really coming to fruition, it's, well, you know, maybe the reimbursement rate is set at X, but maybe also some value can be provided through technology. For example, providers would benefit if they were paid quicker or sooner.
Providers would benefit if the patients, you know, if they sort of had pre-authorization of the patient's care and didn't have to wait for that response to come back from the insurer, right? So there are some other ways, you know, through technology to kind of barter, you know, our trade value.
Yep. Totally. No, I think those are really, really good points and certainly, yeah, I think Massachusetts is a great example, right?
I think there's, you know, those states around the country where, you know, things are happening differently and you're like, okay, what can we learn from a state like Massachusetts? What can we learn from a state like Oregon? What can we learn from, you know, what North Carolina is kind of going through in terms of how they're thinking about, you know, restructuring some of, you know, their government program reimbursement and, you know, some of those things.
So I think, yeah, lots of those early signs, right, the canary in the coal mine of like where the industry is going. So I appreciate you calling out some of those and sharing them from your perspective where those things are at. Obviously, we can talk about innovation with you all day, in terms of technology and some of those things.
And I love to talk about that. And I also love to, you know, learn more about the people that we're chatting with and get a chance to, because like people are going to see you at a conference, right? And my hope in our podcast too is that people learn something more about you than just, you know, your job and what's on LinkedIn, right?
So as we move into the connection section, I would love to hear one of the things from you that I think is always really interesting is like, what has been a formative experience for you as a patient? Like, when you've been experiencing health care, tell us about something that you remember that you can share. We're like, wow, that like shaped me in this way.
And now I think about the world differently because of it.
Yeah, interesting. And it's always interesting for me, too, as I meet new entrepreneurs and new collaborators and innovators. You always hear about how did they get into dentistry, right?
And it kind of relates to that. Now I'm I am a dentist, right? So that's one thing that grounds me here.
But there are a lot of people in this industry that didn't ever think they would be here or came from a perspective that is not originally dental. Right? I think that benefits us, you know, mutually in a lot of ways.
But it's always interesting to hear those stories. And by the way, you also often hear these people get stuck here, right? In a good way, right?
You know, they find their way here and then, you know, they often don't leave, you know, which means perhaps we're on to something or at least there's a lot of work to do.
There's a lot of big problems to be solved, too. Yeah, maybe that's exactly right.
That's totally correct. For me, you know, in terms of health care experiences, you know, that changed my outlook. And, you know, I'll have to also qualify this with the fact that I do come from a health care family, right?
You know, think that, think around, think sort of mob style of health care, right? We could probably, if we all, we live somewhat close, but if we lived even closer, I mean, we could literally be a health system. It's somewhat comical.
There's very few that, you know, there are some in the family that, you know, you're token lawyer, you're token, you know, banker, but generally speaking, my entire family is health care professionals, right? Just to paint a small picture, wife is a nurse, dad and brother are orthopedic surgeons, mom is an OT, PT, CHT, and I'm telling you, the list goes very, very far beyond that, to every health care facet. So for me, growing up, there were no dentists, by the way, in my family.
For me, growing up, the health care experience, I think, was quite a bit different than it is probably for a lot of other folks, because there's a lot of professional courtesy done among health care professionals. Quite a few of them, as you might imagine, or their family members hurt their bones or muscles, and so the bartering of care does occur. For me personally, though, I grew up with a lot of stomach problems, always had some level of IBS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, definitely had and developed continuously this egg and dairy protein allergy.
From the time that I was actually an infant with hives all the way through upper and lower GI symptoms, that continued to get worse and worse, and that was a big problem for me, kind of growing up. Didn't help to take some spring break trips to foreign destinations, where I'd probably say various standards of food were consumed, and that led potentially to super infections in my GI tract. It was very tough for clinicians and very tough for me to not be given a direct diagnosis.
Is it Crohn's? I don't know. Is it colitis?
I don't know. Is it an infection? I'm not sure.
All the meanwhile, my life is kind of disrupted by this kind of ticking time bomb in my stomach that could go off at any moment, unpredictably, and that was pretty intrusive to my lifestyle to live with. Culminated in a bad semester in school and in college, bad from a health perspective, not an academic perspective, ended up pretty dehydrated, got through finals in the hospital, IVs, colonoscopies, all this. I jokingly say, I think the colonoscopy might have cured me.
To some extent, I was so cleaned out that nothing else was there to cause harm by the end of that. But I changed my eating as a result of it. I decided that I could no longer go on doing what I was doing.
It's really a life, either way you eat, it's a lifestyle change. You are who you eat. Put it in context for me, I read somewhere, I think it's true, most, if not all, your cells change over about 10 years throughout your entire body, right?
You are literally what you eat, and every 10 years, that looks a little different. And so I've been vegan now for 13 years, 14 years. Those that have kind of sat with me through a dinner and I've had to put up with my difficult ordering or catering to me, and I'm grateful industry-wide for anybody listening who has done that with me or for me.
But it changed, it changed everything. It changed the way that we compost and recycle. It changed the way that we treat animals.
It changed the way we deal with the environment. It definitely changes the food we cook and eat and how we source it. And it has really changed a lot for me.
It actually, I think, you know, we get into that area of oral systemic health links. I think it also changed my oral health quite a bit. You know, even as a pre-dentist, right, I definitely had some cavities.
I don't have a perfect mouth. But ever since making that change and becoming a dentist, both of them, right, confounding factors there in a way, have not experienced, you know, knock on wood, a lot of the oral health, you know, minor, but still issues that I had faced previously. And so investing now in companies like Viome and Bristle and Brickbuilt, some of these oral microbiome companies, I relate to them in a very different way, right?
Coming from the space where I have a connection to my, you know, oral and gut biome and how that changed kind of my perspective.
Yeah, man. Oh, my gosh. There's so much there.
I think, like, we've had a few folks on the podcast kind of talk about some of that, too. And I think, yeah, there's just so much we could dive into in terms of, you know, just processed sugar and, you know, all that stuff, right? Yeah, like, you know, where where meat is raised.
I love Michael Pollan, one of my favorite authors.
Also, Matt, the battles around fluoride, you know, to your previous question around policy and new administration and does fluoride persist in the waters or not? And right, there's a lot there.
There is a lot there. I literally was just a guest on a podcast this morning where we were talking about some of that, you know, and my, you know, kind of position on that, right, is like, I think as health care professionals, like we need to hold a much lighter, you know, grip on some of what we think to be absolute truth, right, and like the fact that we could be wrong, and it might not even might be, we might not be wrong in our lifetime, but maybe after that, right?
Yeah, a version of that, Matt, I think is the dental industry's ability to listen to the patient and to start to embrace consumerism a little bit more, right? I will not sit here or anywhere else and, you know, tout any kind of success behind something like Smile Direct Club, for example, right? But, and I believe wholly to make it even more clear that you have to go through the professional for professional care, if that wasn't already clear.
But there are some lessons learned. There are quite a few lessons learned that come out of something like that, right? Clearly, there was a following among patients.
They want less chair time. They want remote monitoring and care, right? They want this level of efficiency.
And we were not listening to that, right? We were committed to this is how the treatment plan works. You come every six to eight weeks.
You come in the office. Even if it's a quick check, you're doing it, right? We were very committed to a specific workflow, and we know how hard it is to change workflows in a practice, right?
And so we stayed rigidly committed to that, and it drove a wedge between what the consumer was expecting or wanting and what we were delivering, right? And that opens up space for something like that to come in. The other perspective on that is, and I work a lot with this, if you want to be a part of the tech in your practice, the software, the fintech, the biotech, the products, then you got to take a step to do that, right?
It's really easy to look at it, point at it, and complain or find problems or whatever it is. It's a whole different thing to get involved, right? Actually step up, dip your toe, invest in something, advise something, test something new, give feedback on something, find a way to engage with it, right?
And I think Smile Direct Club at its core really taught, I hope it taught, our industry at least those two lessons, if not more. And Matt, I disrupted you. I wanted to hear about your favorite author too.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no. For sure. You're just talking about food and whatever.
One of my favorite authors, especially surrounding this, Michael Pollan, writes so many great books about food, and there's so much there, I think that is pretty convicting when all of a sudden you hear about it. So if anyone out there is listening and they're like, hey, I want to learn more about this, who should I go read that's pretty approachable and whatever, like Michael Pollan is a great place to start.
Really good stuff out of him. And the thoughts that all that bring up him around precision. I went vegan by sort of a diagnosis of exclusion and a diet of exclusion, right?
But I won't sit here. I'm not gonna sit here and say that's the right choice for everyone, right? I certainly don't do that.
Eating is a very personal lifestyle choice, right? But it's also one that was the option on the table of what I really wish we had. And it's not just about eating, right?
It's also about oral care is personalized medicine or personalized dentistry, right? So to that point of investing in companies like Biome, you know, it's understanding, like if there's a probiotic for my mouth or for my gut, I want the one for me, right? Or even a toothpaste or a mouthwash or, you know, how about the one for me, right?
I've got XYZ going on with the balance of bacteria in my mouth. So what is the most helpful product to me? Not go down, you know, go walk down a big box retail aisle or go aimlessly shop on Amazon to find 1,000 different skews, right, that are irreconcilable differences effectively on there, right?
And that's me, the dental professional who helps start and run a toothpaste toothbrush company, who invests in dozens and dozens of dental technology companies. If I have trouble doing those things, right, and I'm sending, you know, Jane or John Doe down the aisle, an average patient of ours down an aisle to do that, they're going to have a lot of trouble, right? And that's just not fair, right, to leave the patient.
We're not doing the best we can, and it's partially because we don't have the ability to be precise in some of those fields.
Yep. But then you get back to like how that relates to, to like, you know, big ag and, you know, the fact that like if we want, you know, personalized medicine, right? Like we, you know, I'm a huge Wendell Berry fan, and, you know, we talk about like small farms, and you're like, hey, man, like all these farms are just becoming monoculture.
And they're like, what is that doing to our, you know, ability to like actually have differentiated immune systems and, you know, whatever it might be. So, so much, so much depth we could go down there. We don't have time, obviously, to do that on this podcast.
But I think for those of, you know, you who might be interested out there, if you're listening and kind of thinking like, hey, I'm, you know, would be interested in learning more, right? There is a lot of really great literature, a lot of really great thinkers who I think were actually wrestling with those issues and, you know, hopefully helping. Because, yeah, if we always say oral health is health, right?
Like, well, you know, eating, you know, anything, right, is the beginning of a lot of that. And so you're like, well, where is that food coming from? And where does it go?
And, you know, all of those different pieces that is, it's all part of the circle of life, right?
One interesting thing, throughout my time at Revere, I've had the opportunity to sit down with all kinds of business collaborators, partners, investors, investments, and we were global, right? So I do encounter a lot of folks from South America, from Europe, from, you know, far East Asia, and we'll sit down, they'll meet, you know, we'll meet there, we'll meet here. When we meet here in the States, we sit down to a restaurant, right?
Even a farm to table restaurant, Matt, you know, in what order? I noticed they order very simple foods here, right? Specifically here, very simple salad, but no dressing, you know, a very simple grain, a whole grain.
And I ask, why is that? You know, we're covering the meal, right? Well, you can order whatever you want.
I'm vegan. You don't have to order vegan. I try to make sure that they're comfortable.
I just want to give them this perspective at the table, because I think a lot of business is done in a very careful, artistic almost way over a meal, right? This art of breaking bread in a business setting. And you know what?
They come back with Matt nine times out of 10, Jeremy, it's nothing against you. I don't know where the food is coming from here in the States, right? And I look at them back in the eye and say, while I'm jaded because I live here, I completely agree with you.
I couldn't sit here and tell you, even though this restaurant says it's farm to table, I couldn't sit here and tell you where that thing comes from. It might be coming from another country. It might be coming from 3000 miles away in this country.
I don't know where it's from. I don't know what's been done to it between the ground and here. It's an interesting challenge here in the States with things like that.
We try our best.
I love it. Well, I appreciate the conversation there. I appreciate the digging in a little bit.
Certainly, the next time, hopefully, anyone is with you at a meeting or whatever and you order vegan right now, they will understand a little bit more about why and how and all of that.
At the very least, we no longer have to check the box on those questionnaires. We can consider everybody's been pre-informed.
There you go.
By the means of the Kinda Different podcast. I'll just write Kinda Different.
Didn't you listen to that episode?
I'm just going to write Kinda Different episode this. I'm not even going to click the box.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there you go. Do you have any food allergies or whatever?
Kinda Different episode X.
Yes, exactly. Awesome. Well, I feel like we've actually been talking about making dentistry a little bit more human and how we do some of that together, talking about listening and consumerism and whatever.
So really just like one big question for you here, because I think you're in such an interesting space in terms of investing in the future of what oral health technology looks like and whatever. A question that I don't get to talk with a lot of people about, because I think sometimes they're probably just too far into the weeds to really understand what this question might even mean, or have the ability to impact it certainly. I think you do.
So this is not a two-parter, but I think you can interpret it from both ways. I'm always interested in health care in general has this social good element to it, right? Public health is a benefit to the society, right?
So what is dentistry's role in producing social good? But I think maybe the other side of that question is, what is the investment goal in producing social good? Because I think all of us would like to assume that the idea that entrepreneurs shape the future of our economy and our world, and all of those things, which is, I think, true in a lot of ways.
But I think that can be over-romanticized in some ways, right? Where it's just a select few people making a whole bunch of money, and then a whole bunch of people that might not be, right? If you want to look at the shadow side of that, or the potentially negative side of it.
So just walk me through how you think about that, both from as an investor's perspective, but also from a dental perspective. How do you think about producing social good in the work that you do?
Yeah. So I think there's a couple of ways at that. If I'm looking at the industry as a whole, right?
And even maybe putting on a little bit my dentist hat, right? I think if I were going to point the good that the professionals can do, we have a lot of problems right here at home. There are many, many more problems globally as well.
But the disparities across the country in terms of just basic health equity, right? Access to affordable care, right? The access part and the affordability part is a huge problem.
The general health literacy, the oral health literacy that's out there, it's a huge problem to see it impact our children, right? Where you can really get ahead of some of these problems, right? Especially when there is even more support in terms of reimbursement for children, and I would argue that adults, these are the areas I would point ourselves as a profession, right?
We know where we will graduate generally from the 70 dental schools, we find ourselves on the coasts and in the major cities often, right? Or in the suburbs of major cities. And I don't think we think enough about the disparities of big America, right?
So I think from a care delivery standpoint, we have a huge challenge in terms of catering to every American, right? Every single mouth, right? I think, you know, there's, I think I heard a stat recently, there were, you know, 40 million, you know, Americans without any kind of touch point, you know, to the to the oral health sphere at all in, you know, the previous year.
And that's a huge portion of people with no, you know, absolutely no encounter. You know, over half of the Americans out there, so now you're talking 152 million Americans without insurance at all, right? So we have, we definitely have a lot of work to do in terms of care delivery.
On the investment side, to kind of answer the other side of your question, we take an approach, you know, that combines ESG, for those that, you know, don't know what that is, the environmental social governance, you know, sort of perspective, as well as DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion perspective, to both sort of how we engineer Revere's internal team, right? How the look of our internal management team and diversity within it, people that we have positioned on our investment committee with the specific charge of looking at approved deals that meet various criteria there. So we do it internally, right?
And then we also look to the startup to be, you know, to some extent delivering on these criteria, right? Do we met, you know, we're a minority strategic investor. Do we control them?
We do not, right? That is not our mandator thesis. If they start or drop a particular initiative, it isn't something that's directly in our control, but we try to influence them in a way that once they are stable and can sort of feed themselves, they're then able to and in some portion start to feed others, right?
And so we look for those sort of pillars to be met with a set of criteria at the startup level as well, right? So we kind of mirror the Revere structure and investment, a component of the investment process to reflect what we want to see in the startup and help them kind of get there. We then do it with a number of partners.
We've been partners to CareQuest and Smile Health and that looking specifically at startups that are taking this health equity kind of focus in oral health. That's certainly been one of those partnerships. We've had a number of partnerships on the fundraising side, where when investors invest in our fund, they're given the opportunity to also have some dollars go to a charitable cause that is touching in some way, shape, or form oral health, either in the US or globally or both.
These are some of the things that we do, our corporate social responsibility around some of these areas.
I love it, man. There's a lot there. I think that, are any of us perfect at it?
No, but if we're thinking about it and actually grappling with it, I think it makes all of us a lot better, and especially for those of us who have the ability to influence it. What you do, and so I appreciate you kind of diving into that. I think some people feel, again, maybe powerless and I don't think that's true.
There's something that all of us can do with regard to this, regardless of where we exist along the spectrum of front-line employee to top level exec. But I appreciate you being thoughtful about it and sharing with us how you guys are kind of-
Yeah, and I appreciate anyone out there who is choosing a way to take action. Whether that is a point solution, I'm going to contribute or work with this charity in some way that's helping this cause. That's one way to do it.
Whether it's in that internal introspective reflection and reflecting your own biases and your own team and orienting your own mission statement to include that, that's another way to do it. I think to our previous conversation here today around other sectors and what they're doing, policy and how it's impacting us, new innovations and how they address some of these areas. Another way that you can do this, if you're grappling with where to start or how to get into it, is to look at the oral health care profession, like we do with health care, as a horizontal cut across by condition.
Sometimes we find ourselves looking in other ways and I think in dentistry, sometimes we miss looking at it by condition. Especially if we're talking about health is oral health. So what is, if Alzheimer's is that, or if cardiac health is that, if diabetes is that for you, there's a way to take a look at a condition and really get at it and change it.
That can lead to a lot of this same strategy.
I love it. I love it. I love it.
We could certainly dive into that a ton more too. But with all that being said, we are out of time for today. Jeremy, I always appreciate the conversation and the thoughtful nature in which you approach these questions.
If people want to learn more about you, if they want to learn more about Revere, where do they go? Help us figure out where to find more.
Yeah. Thanks, Matt. Really appreciate it.
We have a new fund open. You can find more information about us at reverepartnersvc.com. You can also always reach out to me at Jeremy at reverepartnersvc.com.
Thanks, Matt.
Awesome, man. We'll certainly appreciate you. I hope you have a great rest of your day.
New fund, congrats. I hope that is wildly successful and continues to lead to the kind of innovation and thoughtful disruption that we've talked about today. Thanks, man.
Likewise. Thanks.
